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Post by VOWS on Oct 8, 2005 12:39:58 GMT -5
New to Area
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Post by confused on Oct 21, 2005 6:34:05 GMT -5
???Can any one explain how our home owners assoiciation is structured? It sounds like a lot of the people who are running the website get a pay check or something from the developer. It seems as though we have no say over any thing as soon as we walk out our doors. It appears we have head strong, tattletale, bullys running our neighborhood. The tone of the regular website looks covert to say the least. Just wondering ......I could be wrong.
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Post by guest on Oct 21, 2005 8:08:02 GMT -5
Sure. The HOA board has three members - the developer and two people he appointed. There is an Architectural Control Committee run by the developer. SBB Management is the company hired by the developer to manage the day-to-day activiities of the HOA. Right now, that's it. Check your DCC&Rs and read about the declarant control period. The developer maintains control of the HOA board as long as he owns a lot within the community.
No one running the website is affiliated with the developer.
Not sure who you are referring to as the bullies, but you might want to check out those who complain the loudest. They throw out ominous sounding warnings and perpetuate unsubtantiated rumors, but never provide any details. A number of their posts contain half-truths or false information. They claim there is a "click" (their term, not mine), but you will notice that the same individuals jump on the bandwagon any time one of them is criticized for their own attacks on people, which they cloak in "that's just my opinion." They seem to have formed their own "click".
I'm afraid the end result is that the discussion boards will be shut down, which seems to be the objective of this group. That will be a sad day for the homeowners.
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Post by admin49 on Oct 21, 2005 9:30:33 GMT -5
I think posters are starting to feel the other site is covert becuase when some questions have been asked, they are told to call moderators in private to receive a response. This leads to the question: why cant they be answered in public so all can know about it? I have nothing but positive things to say about the moderators over their and have had good personal experiences with them but this stuff about telling posters to make private calls if they want answers is curious.
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Post by guest on Oct 21, 2005 10:18:40 GMT -5
I'm not trying to start an argument, but you are mistaken when you say that people are being told to call a moderator in private. Are you asking about the Woodland Springs Foundation question? Pauline Veness is not a moderator (anymore). All I know is that she started the foundation to coordinate charitable activities in VOWS. The only other times people have been asked to contact someone in private is for coordinating volunteer activities.
Can you point out a specific topic or post to illustrate what you mean?
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Post by guest on Oct 21, 2005 10:28:40 GMT -5
Sorry, didn't finish...
The foundation is not affiliated with the website. The website is not affiliated with any builder or the developer. If she chooses not to answer the question, that is her choice. Some of the ones who do the complaining don't answer questions put to them either; I don't see a big fuss made about that.
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Post by admin49 on Oct 21, 2005 15:14:17 GMT -5
Im not making a fuss. Im merely pointing out a concern that some posters have about how information is spread by those in the know. I cant remember which thread but someone had asked a simple question and was told to call Pauline privately for an answer. Please dont misinterpret my posts as an attack on Dave or Pauline( i met pauline and she made me feel very welcome to VOWS). But why couldnt stuff like that be posted in the open? Im not up at night thinking about this stuff but i can easily see why some posters find it curious.
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Post by concerned guest on Oct 21, 2005 17:21:27 GMT -5
Hi, I'm new to this site. I remember a post made my demels asking whether or not our HOA dues pay for the website. Trina Kovar told her to speak to her privately. Demels made an appointment with her, then Trina canceled. Demels called 3 times to reschedule and Trina never called her back. Demels "dropped in" on Trina and Trina said she didn't know the answer. Why not post that on the website? There is the perception that these people, including some ex-AC members and/or their spouse, and SBB are covering things up that should be public knowledge. And when we end with "just my opinion", it is because it will be deleted by the so-called moderators who don't agree with our statements.
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Post by concerned guest on Oct 21, 2005 17:31:33 GMT -5
I believe another post that was made my robinhood and LouieB under the Woodland Springs Foundation thread were deleted. They were asking questions about the Foundation, who is in charge, etc... Dave came back and told them both that he knew they were personal friends of Pauline and that they should call her privately if they wanted any info. That tells me that Pauline is in charge of the foundation. Why isn't this info made public to the homeowners? Does anyone else have trouble with this? To my knowledge, a substantial amount of money was given to the foundation for the fall festival. I for one would like to see an accounting of the money. If we have all these sponsors and kids getting donations, why do we need all that money and where is it going?
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Post by VOWS on Oct 21, 2005 18:12:32 GMT -5
Those are all good questions that should be answered.
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Post by VOWS on Oct 21, 2005 18:13:52 GMT -5
"To my knowledge, a substantial amount of money was given to the foundation for the fall festival"
What makes you think that?
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Post by concerned guest on Oct 21, 2005 20:37:56 GMT -5
I was told by an ex-AC member that a vote was taken by the AC and the majority voted to use homeowners dues to pay for the festival. That is fine, but all homeowners should be aware of this.
Let me say that I think it's great that we are having a get-together for the community. What I don't like is making one person responsible for this money and unaccountable to the homeowners. The homeowners actually have no knowledge of it whatsoever. Why?
How much of our dues is actually being spent on the festival? Do we have receipts? What will happen with the money not used? Where is it going?
Again, let me stress I like the idea of having a festival. We as homeowners should know where our money is going though. A spreadsheet on the income and expenses should be available for all to see.
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Post by admin49 on Oct 21, 2005 22:01:02 GMT -5
"A spreadsheet on the income and expenses should be available for all to see."
I agree 100%
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Post by concerned guest on Oct 21, 2005 22:38:13 GMT -5
admin49, do you think our questions will be answered? Dave always says to ask SBB. Trina claims to know nothing, except that Pauline is in charge of the Woodland Springs Foundation. If you will look at the old website, all questions pertaining to our dues and accountability are deleted. Everyone says ask Pauline. The only thing we get from Pauline is sugar coated fluff. NO ONE is answering any questions. Now their answer is..."we are just homeowners, we don't have to account to anyone"...
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Post by admin49 on Oct 22, 2005 1:03:52 GMT -5
I think the developer should be addressed directly about these concerns.
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