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Post by concerned guest on Oct 25, 2005 9:19:33 GMT -5
I was told that yesterday the developer called Trina and was asking about this website. Why would the developer care about this website? Big Brother is still watching even over here where you're supposed to be able to write what you want without it being deleted.
4stamps, it is obvious in your writings defending Pauline and Dave that you are a moderator on the other site. Those of us that asked questions were deleted and/or banned. If you consider questions about our dues negative, then I was negative. Colleen Demel was told by Trina to ask Pauline about whether or not our dues pay for the Woodland Springs Foundation. Something is wrong with this picture and we all have a right to know.
I am not saying that the person in charge is doing anything wrong or a bad person. It is suspicious though how all of this came up. You always blame it on 2 or 3 bad apples. I believe there are also 2 or 3 bad apples, but it's those at the top, not us. We are only asking questions.
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Post by admin49 on Oct 25, 2005 10:06:23 GMT -5
Why would they care about this site?
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Post by tkovar on Oct 25, 2005 11:30:34 GMT -5
I wanted to clear up the the statement that was made by admin49. I don't know who told you that the developer called and asked about this website-that is not true. I never told Colleen Demel to ask Pauline about whether or not our dues pay for the Foundation, I told Colleen Demel that the dues DO NOT pay for the foundation.
And to clear up more information that has been passed around that is incorrect:
I canceled an appointment with Demels and rescheduled for the very next day. The one (1) phone call I recieved in return from Demels (not 3) stated she would be at that appointment. I was in my office at that time the very next day because I knew she was coming in, she didn't just "walk in" on me.
Anytime a homeowner asks SBB about dues, we answer. We do not send them to other homeowners or volunteers. Pualine would have no knowledge of others HOA dues. The statement was made that our reply was we don't know and that is incorrect and false information you are passing around. We do know, we look at the homeowner's account and give that information to that homeowner only.
I am very disappointed that I see alot of Trina Kovar statements that are being passed on this website and what is being said is not true. Please cease and desist from posting FALSE STATEMENTS. If you want to know something, contact me in my office.
I will no longer check this website, I was just wanted to inform you that the misleading information being posted here is what is starting trouble with everyone.
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Post by tkovar on Oct 25, 2005 11:56:18 GMT -5
I apologize admin49 it was not you that I was responding to regarding the phone call from the developer asking about the website. I realized you were not the author for that post.
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Post by VOWS on Oct 25, 2005 12:05:05 GMT -5
Tkovar,
I (Admin49) didnt post anything about you. Someone else posted what they had been told by a third party. I dont think they claimed to have any direct knowledge of the situation. Another poster however did post a few days ago about "walking in" to meet with you etc.
As for myself, i have already posted that im satisfied with Pauline's response. I was never against using some of the HOA funds for the festival in the first place. I only saw that when questions were asked that they were never answered or answered in a very lawyer like fashion (depends on the meaning of "is") etc...
This is just a place for people to rant about community issues. Just becuase some people seem to have an ax to grind against former AC members doesnt mean that every question is out of line.
If someone is spreading lies about you then I would hope they would stop. But who am i to say who is telling the truth and who isnt? Im sure that there are legal actions that can be taken if someone is truely spreading lies to damage a reputation. However, Im not the judge and jury and wont call someone a liar unless i too have direct knowledge of the situation.
Again, I think former AC members like Friar and Pauline are good for the community. But i think residents have the right to have different opinions and to voice them.
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Post by tkovar on Oct 25, 2005 12:27:28 GMT -5
Again, admin49 I did apologize for directing my response to you, I posted that right after I posted my response to the accusations. I realized you were not the author of that post, only after I responded.
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Post by guest on Oct 25, 2005 13:14:40 GMT -5
After a conversation with Pauline, The Villages of Woodland Springs Homeowners Association inc and its Board of Directors has pledged $3000 as a contributing sponsor for the Fall Festival 2005 hosted by the Villages of Woodland Springs Foundation. SBB Management has pledged to the event as well as many other generous businesses. Sponsors and contributions in kind are appreciated.
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Post by navy85 on Oct 25, 2005 13:22:22 GMT -5
4stamps, it is obvious in your writings defending Pauline and Dave that you are a moderator on the other site. Your logic doesn't make sense. What does one have to do with the other? I have been a moderator for all of 12 days. I was posting long before then. FWIW, I have questioned some of Dave's comments in the past and supported your position on the pool slide. You say you are only asking questions. Please explain statements such as (paraphrasing) "a reasonable person would believe it was SBB or a former AC member" who took garage sale signs? As for posts being deleted, people complained about a post Dave made. That post was removed. Wouldn't it look odd in the discussion thread if all the responses to that post remained? I don't consider questions to be negative. Some questions have been posted in a manner that violate the terms of service. There have been posts where I agreed with the author's position but didn't agree with the way he or she was making it. As you can see, Trina has responded that she did NOT tell a homeowner to ask Pauline about HOA dues supporting the Woodland Springs Foundation. It doesn't make sense to me that she would do so - and we are left with "she said/she said". As far as I know, you can write what you want on this site and not be deleted. It's up to Admin49.
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Post by VOWS on Oct 25, 2005 14:38:41 GMT -5
Trina,
I didnt notice your 2nd post until just now.. sorry about that..
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Post by VOWS on Oct 25, 2005 14:39:17 GMT -5
So homeowner dues are being spent on the festival?
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Post by tkovar on Oct 25, 2005 15:24:52 GMT -5
No, it is donations from sponsers that are helping the fall festival. I look forward to meeting those of you who will be attending this great event.
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Post by guest on Oct 25, 2005 15:40:56 GMT -5
After a conversation with Pauline, The Villages of Woodland Springs Homeowners Association inc and its Board of Directors has pledged $3000 as a contributing sponsor for the Fall Festival 2005 hosted by the Villages of Woodland Springs Foundation. So HOA dues are going to be spent on the Festival? ? I don't mind that at all. What I mind is that "The Woodland Springs Foundation, AKA Pauline Veness Foundation" is taking credit for this. Who funded the Halloween Festival last year?
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Post by upset on Oct 25, 2005 16:23:53 GMT -5
After a conversation with Pauline, The Villages of Woodland Springs Homeowners Association inc and its Board of Directors has pledged $3000 as a contributing sponsor for the Fall Festival 2005 hosted by the Villages of Woodland Springs Foundation. So HOA dues are going to be spent on the Festival? ? I don't mind that at all. What I mind is that "The Woodland Springs Foundation, AKA Pauline Veness Foundation" is taking credit for this. Who funded the Halloween Festival last year? Ive never seen Pauline get some sort of credit for the foundation. If people on here and the other web site hadnt told me I wouldnt have even known. She isnt taking any bows. She is trying to get the fall festival off and running, thankfully she stood up and took on this giant adventure. I didnt see anyone else running around trying to head one up. Why bash someone who is working so hard for VOWS? I'll never get some of the hatred (and yes, its hatred) for others in the Village. I swear some of you wont be happy until NO ONE WANTS TO DO anything for VOWS for fear of your attacks. Shame on you!
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Post by concerned guest on Oct 25, 2005 16:43:29 GMT -5
If I could figure out how to quote someone I would, but there is a statement, "After a conversation with Pauline, the VOWS HOA and the BOD has pledge $3000 for the Fall Festival..." This is the substantial amount of money I was referring to previously that the AC voted (before it was disbanded) to give to the Fall Festival. Why now, only after it was pointed out a few days ago, are we being told about it? Again, that is fine but why wasn't this disclosed before? We were told it was SOLELY donations and sponsors. I guess you can call it a donation, but it is still our homeowner's dues.
4stamps, I have also made many posts supporting you on the other website, as I believed that you only posted fair and accurate information.
I don't believe this site should be for SBB management to come on. I am not accusing anyone of anything. I TOTALLY BELIEVE that my sources are accurate though.
It is our right as homeowners to know where our dues are going. Why is this information only revealed after I posted it?
The reason I posted that a reasonable person would assume that either SBB or an AC member took the garage sale signs is because that is the truth. SBB did take the signs. And I did apologize to the AC members like I was told to do.
There are really some great volunteers out there. I myself have volunteered on many occasions and through many years.
This has all been very draining for me but time will tell. Thanks for letting me vent.
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Post by gues on Oct 25, 2005 17:09:23 GMT -5
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